Will give #1 Draft Pick for CB!!!

If he's in his 90's or mid to high 80's and isn't too old.

Oh, and i will also give up lower draft picks for low 80's and 70's CB's.

I got Nate Clements 95/28/7 but I'd need a lot more.

I have a few CB's but its going to take alot more then a 1st get any of them

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

and their younger

My team is very thin right now. All I have are draft picks.

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

Well you also never had a player progress more than 2 points sooo theirs obviously something wrong with your xbox...

mksadng wrote:

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

Well you also never had a player progress more than 2 points sooo theirs obviously something wrong with your xbox...

lol silver ur xbox is weird... is it a 360? and is this 08?

SoxNats08 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

Well you also never had a player progress more than 2 points sooo theirs obviously something wrong with your xbox...

lol silver ur xbox is weird... is it a 360? and is this 08?

I have a 360 and 08

My 1st draft.

1st draft pick was an 86
2nd-85

and etc

Then there was the next seasons draft which was horrid highest rated was and 82

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

Well you also never had a player progress more than 2 points sooo theirs obviously something wrong with your xbox...

lol silver ur xbox is weird... is it a 360? and is this 08?

I have a 360 and 08

My 1st draft.

1st draft pick was an 86
2nd-85

and etc

Then there was the next seasons draft which was horrid highest rated was and 82

Yeah, I was in another league that did 360, and we got to a draft class.

Needless to say, the average "projected" first round pick is roughly 83 (Does not include reach picks).

2nds were roughly 80-76, and then it really drops to the low 70s from there.


Hell, I shit you not there was a 90 OVR CB taken in our 360 draft (Was taken #4 overall, was a top 5 player projected).

Essentially, top 5 pick players = 85+, top 10 = 84-86, 1st = 83-81 (roughly)

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

IMO someone is trying to bring down the value of 1st round picks to get them for cheaper

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

IMO someone is trying to bring down the value of 1st round picks to get them for cheaper

Not at all, I dont try to acquire picks, look at all my player trade blocks everyone of them says I DO NOT WANT PICKS. Im saying what I have honestly witnessed, rookie drafts on the 360 SUCK, the top 10 picks can range from anywhere from 86-80(Ive gotten a 78 before...) and everything after is between 77-80...

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

IMO someone is trying to bring down the value of 1st round picks to get them for cheaper

Not at all, I dont try to acquire picks, look at all my player trade blocks everyone of them says I DO NOT WANT PICKS. Im saying what I have honestly witnessed, rookie drafts on the 360 SUCK, the top 10 picks can range from anywhere from 86-80(Ive gotten a 78 before...) and everything after is between 77-80...

Ok, I respect that.

I honestly, prior to the draft in the other league, had no idea what to expect. But like I said, there was a 90 OVR CB in the draft. And again, I drafted (early 2nd round pick) a 2nd round projected WR who ended up being 76, but I know in the first there were plenty of mid 80s players (mid 80s = 84-86).

Well lots of people get different drafts like some people on here telling me players only progress 1-2 points an offseason when ive had backups jump 10 points...

Desert Demon wrote:

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

Are you serious? My Draft All 32 picks ended up being 80 or better thats without imported draft though

Well you also never had a player progress more than 2 points sooo theirs obviously something wrong with your xbox...

lol silver ur xbox is weird... is it a 360? and is this 08?

I have a 360 and 08

My 1st draft.

1st draft pick was an 86
2nd-85

and etc

Then there was the next seasons draft which was horrid highest rated was and 82

Yeah, I was in another league that did 360, and we got to a draft class.

Needless to say, the average "projected" first round pick is roughly 83 (Does not include reach picks).

2nds were roughly 80-76, and then it really drops to the low 70s from there.


Hell, I shit you not there was a 90 OVR CB taken in our 360 draft (Was taken #4 overall, was a top 5 player projected).

Essentially, top 5 pick players = 85+, top 10 = 84-86, 1st = 83-81 (roughly)

I tell you something really awesome.

I did this start of the season I traded A few players(Dont remeber who to the fins) for there 1st. And it became the 1st pick overal

Then I traded my 1st(32nd overal) for there 2nd and 4ths.

Then with my 2nd I traded Culpepper, Lamont Jordan for DeAnglo Hall.

Then I traded the Number one pick away(Which ended up being a Guard(87) for the number 2 pick with a 3rd. So then I traded down to number 15 and drafted this amazing WR His name was Daunte Ortiz 6'3 rated 89.

I was so happy plus in the offseason I traded Porter to the jags for a 3rd and 4th and signed Javon Walker

thats wat i call a great off-season

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

IMO someone is trying to bring down the value of 1st round picks to get them for cheaper

Not at all, I dont try to acquire picks, look at all my player trade blocks everyone of them says I DO NOT WANT PICKS. Im saying what I have honestly witnessed, rookie drafts on the 360 SUCK, the top 10 picks can range from anywhere from 86-80(Ive gotten a 78 before...) and everything after is between 77-80...

Ok, I respect that.

I honestly, prior to the draft in the other league, had no idea what to expect. But like I said, there was a 90 OVR CB in the draft. And again, I drafted (early 2nd round pick) a 2nd round projected WR who ended up being 76, but I know in the first there were plenty of mid 80s players (mid 80s = 84-86).

Keep in mind that those were imported classes...

SoxNats08 wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

IMO someone is trying to bring down the value of 1st round picks to get them for cheaper

Not at all, I dont try to acquire picks, look at all my player trade blocks everyone of them says I DO NOT WANT PICKS. Im saying what I have honestly witnessed, rookie drafts on the 360 SUCK, the top 10 picks can range from anywhere from 86-80(Ive gotten a 78 before...) and everything after is between 77-80...

Ok, I respect that.

I honestly, prior to the draft in the other league, had no idea what to expect. But like I said, there was a 90 OVR CB in the draft. And again, I drafted (early 2nd round pick) a 2nd round projected WR who ended up being 76, but I know in the first there were plenty of mid 80s players (mid 80s = 84-86).

Keep in mind that those were imported classes...

Ok, never mind, we're fucked.

Great convo and all, but....anyone interested?

mksadng wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

mksadng wrote:

You overvalue draft picks, most firsts will net you a player around 77...Definetly not worth a high 80.

What crack are you smoking?


Firsts = roughly 82ish

Seconds = roughly 78ish

From what ive seen in ALL my 360 franchises, top 10 picks will net you around 82 and everything after is 77-79...

That means you can't draft worth crap.