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steel66
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Jul 07, 2008 10:33 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
7/6/08

Trade #143

Redskins get:

RB Chester Taylor 87
ROLB Chad Greenway 84
LE Ray Edwards 79

Vikings get:

RB Clinton Portis 91/27/3

He doesn't have contract lengths or ages in his DC, I'll have to get those from my 360.
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There is no way this trade should be passed.

Chad Greenway and Chester Taylor are worth more then Clitnon. Period.

I disagree. Portis owns. Chester blows. Taylor is like 29 I think, so age is an underrated factor here. Edwards is weak. Greenway is pretty good, but he's still only 84. The 4 point upgrade here is also a bigger 4 points than usual, as mid-80's sounds a whole lot worse then 90's. Trade kinda slips into SoxNats favor, but if Sox through in a depth OLB and DE it would be perfectly even. As is, I wouldn't deny it over a few depth players.
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PackersOwnAll
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 12:30 am

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
7/6/08

Trade #143

Redskins get:

RB Chester Taylor 87
ROLB Chad Greenway 84
LE Ray Edwards 79

Vikings get:

RB Clinton Portis 91/27/3

He doesn't have contract lengths or ages in his DC, I'll have to get those from my 360.
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There is no way this trade should be passed.

Chad Greenway and Chester Taylor are worth more then Clitnon. Period.

Taylor never realy stood out and prob never will in Madden, but yet Portis always is atop the league leaders in stats every year. Greenway isnt 20 anymore... It is fair I think
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SilverNBlackAttack
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 12:10 pm

Thats BS.

Portis isnt worth all of that when you HAVE A.D that is fucked up.

Greenway is 24 or something like that.

Portis is getting older and not going to get any better.

There shouldnt be that DE in the deal The vikings are overpaying for a need they dont need.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 1:49 pm

The team trading for portis already having AD doesn't factor much if at all in to trade evaluation for TC purposes.

What is important is that Portis is 2 years younger than Taylor and Taylor is at the age where RB's hit the wall. So the Gap of points and age are important and carry a lot of value. a 2 year difference between 28 and 30 is worth more than a 2 year difference between 22 and 24 (especially with RB's)


Greenway is the price to be payed to make up that gap.


Ray Edwards may throw off the trade though because I believe he is 23-24ish.
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SilverNBlackAttack
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 4:44 pm

I think portis is 28 not 27.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 4:51 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
I think portis is 28 not 27.

He is 28 or at least turns 28 during the current season we are going into.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 5:00 pm

hes 26 in the game, so 27 next season
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 5:02 pm

Hes still an elite RB... and it is fair imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 5:22 pm

Wow whens the Jets/Colts trade gunna get voted on??????
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 5:24 pm

Harper41 wrote:
Wow whens the Jets/Colts trade gunna get voted on??????

Never lol!


I haven't decided my vote yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 11:33 pm

7/6/08

Trade #147

Jets Get
MLB Nick Barnett 92/6/28
FS Jermaine Phillips 88/28/1

Colts get
#1 overall pick
MLB Paul Posluszny 82 (23) 3

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Wow........

That is saying that (IMO) Phillips IS slightly better than Poz, even with contract and all, so basically, a 90+ (mid 90s if you consider the 'extra' from Phillips over Poz if you follow me) is worth the #1 overall pick?

This is shocking news, and though I hate it for the sake of the league, I love it for the sake of my #2 overall pick
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeTue Jul 08, 2008 11:38 pm

Desert Demon wrote:
7/6/08

Trade #147

Jets Get
MLB Nick Barnett 92/6/28
FS Jermaine Phillips 88/28/1

Colts get
#1 overall pick
MLB Paul Posluszny 82 (23) 3

Approved 3-1








Wow........

That is saying that (IMO) Phillips IS slightly better than Poz, even with contract and all, so basically, a 90+ (mid 90s if you consider the 'extra' from Phillips over Poz if you follow me) is worth the #1 overall pick?

This is shocking news, and though I hate it for the sake of the league, I love it for the sake of my #2 overall pick

I agree. But I'm happy to be out of the #3 pick now...
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 09, 2008 12:01 am

Desert Demon wrote:
7/6/08

Trade #147

Jets Get
MLB Nick Barnett 92/6/28
FS Jermaine Phillips 88/28/1

Colts get
#1 overall pick
MLB Paul Posluszny 82 (23) 3

Approved 3-1








Wow........

That is saying that (IMO) Phillips IS slightly better than Poz, even with contract and all, so basically, a 90+ (mid 90s if you consider the 'extra' from Phillips over Poz if you follow me) is worth the #1 overall pick?

This is shocking news, and though I hate it for the sake of the league, I love it for the sake of my #2 overall pick

I agree with you completely... guess who the one no was.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Jul 09, 2008 12:33 am

I woulda said no also. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 10, 2008 7:47 pm

that steelers trade is AWESFUL
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 10, 2008 7:48 pm

SimsZilla wrote:
that steelers trade is AWESFUL

whats wrong with it?
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 10, 2008 7:48 pm

PatFan wrote:
SimsZilla wrote:
that steelers trade is AWESFUL

whats wrong with it?
a second and 5th for an 85 WR?
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 10, 2008 7:51 pm

SimsZilla wrote:
that steelers trade is AWESFUL

agreed
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Jul 10, 2008 9:13 pm

That Steelers trade is BS.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 10:47 pm

Is the TC insane? Moss is 30 (I actually think he's older). Not only is he 3 years older than Portis, but 30 is the year where NFL players generally hit the wall. Portis>Moss IMO. Portis plays a much more important position in Madden, and is only a few points worse than Moss anyways. If a few resignings points isn't enough to make up the difference and adding a 2nd Round Pick still isn't enough, what does the TC want the Vikings to add? Adrian Peterson? I mean I can see where Portis is worth less than Moss if you consider Moss is the best WR in the game, but age and contract still have to be significant factors in the deal and Portis is the clear winner in both of those categories. Not to mention Moss's deal is actually up next year when the "tougher" resignings rules take effect.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 11:22 pm

what the hell do i have to add then? RB>>>>>>>>WR on madden, just let me know what the hell needs to be added.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Jul 12, 2008 11:57 pm

Moss is the BEST WR. He is needed. A great WR> A great RB.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 12:14 am

what do me and the vikings need to do to get this trade through ami getting to much now or not enough please somebody on the trade council pm me back about this
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 4:36 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
Moss is the BEST WR. He is needed. A great WR> A great RB.

You are fucking retarded.

It doesn't matter of he's the BEST. He's still only a 99 or w/e and Portis is a 97 or w/e. On Madden, WR's don't do shit and since this is a Madden league the TC should consider that. If you don't believe me look at the stats. Even on my team, DeAngelo Williams (84) had more yards and TDs (1438 and 7) then Andre Johnson (95) (1101 and 6/8 couldn't tell for sure). And that's an 11 point dropoff in rating there.

Don't just talk without thinking or looking up stats, it makes you look like a fucking dumbass.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Jul 13, 2008 4:42 pm

steel66 wrote:
SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
Moss is the BEST WR. He is needed. A great WR> A great RB.

You are fucking retarded.

It doesn't matter of he's the BEST. He's still only a 99 or w/e and Portis is a 97 or w/e. On Madden, WR's don't do shit and since this is a Madden league the TC should consider that. If you don't believe me look at the stats. Even on my team, DeAngelo Williams (84) had more yards and TDs (1438 and 7) then Andre Johnson (95) (1101 and 6/8 couldn't tell for sure). And that's an 11 point dropoff in rating there.

Don't just talk without thinking or looking up stats, it makes you look like a fucking dumbass.

Portis is a 91.
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