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PostSubject: Re: The Raiders Are Shoping Aso.   The Raiders Are Shoping Aso. - Page 2 Icon_minitimeSun May 18, 2008 1:25 pm

mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

Agreed.

Man, I really find it amusing that some people think that real life carries over to Madden...

Fact is, you CANNOT (yet) simulate real life on Madden and how a player performs.



Edge is Madden rated 91, has 90+ speed, agi, etc., has vision, is the 2nd best pass blocking RB, and overall, on Madden, is a worthy back.
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I can do Chambers and 2 seconds (Titans, Cardinals) for Aso and 4 contract points.

You need to realize you're not going to get a much better offer because WR is more important then CB and Aso is on a 1 year deal.
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I can do Chambers and 2 seconds (Titans, Cardinals) for Aso and 4 contract points.

You need to realize you're not going to get a much better offer because WR is more important then CB and Aso is on a 1 year deal.

Not really. A great CB=A great WR.

But Im willing to resign Aso to a two year deal if I were to get my hands on Aquan.
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I can do Chambers and 2 seconds (Titans, Cardinals) for Aso and 4 contract points.

You need to realize you're not going to get a much better offer because WR is more important then CB and Aso is on a 1 year deal.

Not really. A great CB=A great WR.

But Im willing to resign Aso to a two year deal if I were to get my hands on Aquan.
You won't. Not for Aso alone.
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Im sure I can get a WR thats some what near 90 for ASO.
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Honestly, you might not. WR>>>CB.

But on a different note im interested and could offer Rashean Mathis in a deal for him.
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mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
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mksadng wrote:
Honestly, you might not. WR>>>CB.

But on a different note im interested and could offer Rashean Mathis in a deal for him.

Not a Big fan of Rasheen I could of had him and a LE 88 overal or 90 if I would of traded Derrick Burgess and Fabain. But I was like.... Suspect
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
yaa and thats why Donovan McNabb is a top 10 QB... oh wait... and thats why Sheppard and Brown are top 10 CBs... oh wait... its a madden sim the best players dont always do the best... but good try big man
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mksadng wrote:
Honestly, you might not. WR>>>CB.

But on a different note im interested and could offer Rashean Mathis in a deal for him.

Not a Big fan of Rasheen I could of had him and a LE 88 overal or 90 if I would of traded Derrick Burgess and Fabain. But I was like.... Suspect
well that was a horrible move by you then...
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mksadng wrote:
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mksadng wrote:
Honestly, you might not. WR>>>CB.

But on a different note im interested and could offer Rashean Mathis in a deal for him.

Not a Big fan of Rasheen I could of had him and a LE 88 overal or 90 if I would of traded Derrick Burgess and Fabain. But I was like.... Suspect
well that was a horrible move by you then...

Not really when the LE was old as dirt.
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SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
mksadng wrote:
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mksadng wrote:
Honestly, you might not. WR>>>CB.

But on a different note im interested and could offer Rashean Mathis in a deal for him.

Not a Big fan of Rasheen I could of had him and a LE 88 overal or 90 if I would of traded Derrick Burgess and Fabain. But I was like.... Suspect
well that was a horrible move by you then...

Not really when the LE was old as dirt.
oh well then nevermind and how old was he?
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mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
yaa and thats why Donovan McNabb is a top 10 QB... oh wait... and thats why Sheppard and Brown are top 10 CBs... oh wait... its a madden sim the best players dont always do the best... but good try big man

funny thing is that mcnabb sucks in real life, guess you kinda owned yourself there. Good one, "big man"
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
yaa and thats why Donovan McNabb is a top 10 QB... oh wait... and thats why Sheppard and Brown are top 10 CBs... oh wait... its a madden sim the best players dont always do the best... but good try big man

funny thing is that mcnabb sucks in real life, guess you kinda owned yourself there. Good one, "big man"
well... i was trying to get the point across that 90+ players dont always put up the best stats but once again good one big man, stop trying to compare real life and madden your making a fool of yourself
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...

Touchdown Jesus, quit making yourself seem so stupid.

Reason why Edge isn't top 10 rushing: Because...

Drumroll....


I'M A FUCKING PASSING TEAM!!!!!!!!

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure if I made my offense 80-20 run I would have him in the top 10!

No fucking way!

Unbelievable!


And yes, this means up to this point, I have gone largely pass over run, in hopes of having Leinart progress at season's end.

Now, since I have 'spilled' the beans, I might change it up, but I can tell you, and Sox can confirm, I've gone largely pass up to this point.

Hard to be a top 10 rusher when only about a quarter of the plays are running for your team...

Rushing attempts aren't posted, but I'm sure each back on the list gets 30+ touches a game.


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mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
yaa and thats why Donovan McNabb is a top 10 QB... oh wait... and thats why Sheppard and Brown are top 10 CBs... oh wait... its a madden sim the best players dont always do the best... but good try big man

funny thing is that mcnabb sucks in real life, guess you kinda owned yourself there. Good one, "big man"
well... i was trying to get the point across that 90+ players dont always put up the best stats but once again good one big man, stop trying to compare real life and madden your making a fool of yourself

If you believe that makes them bad players then that contradicts what you were saying about edge, and if you're saying that doesnt make them bad then it contradicts what you said about McNabb, Brown and Lito. And if you're basing this entire thing off of stats then it contradicts what you first said about Justin Miller. So either way you're contradicting yourself. Once again I dont even have to say anything and you come across foolish.
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Desert Demon wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...

Touchdown Jesus, quit making yourself seem so stupid.

Reason why Edge isn't top 10 rushing: Because...

Drumroll....


I'M A FUCKING PASSING TEAM!!!!!!!!

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure if I made my offense 80-20 run I would have him in the top 10!

No fucking way!

Unbelievable!

oh yea thats why laurence maroney is #1 in rushing right now, because hes DEFINATELY not on a passing team, yep the pats are all about the run. Good try though...
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...
yaa and thats why Donovan McNabb is a top 10 QB... oh wait... and thats why Sheppard and Brown are top 10 CBs... oh wait... its a madden sim the best players dont always do the best... but good try big man

funny thing is that mcnabb sucks in real life, guess you kinda owned yourself there. Good one, "big man"
well... i was trying to get the point across that 90+ players dont always put up the best stats but once again good one big man, stop trying to compare real life and madden your making a fool of yourself

If you believe that makes them bad players then that contradicts what you were saying about edge, and if you're saying that doesnt make them bad then it contradicts what you said about McNabb, Brown and Lito. And if you're basing this entire thing off of stats then it contradicts what you first said about Justin Miller. So either way you're contradicting yourself. Once again I dont even have to say anything and you come across foolish.
No I was bringing up that Edge is a good RB regardless of what he does in the NFL hes good in madden, you said he wasnt good because hes not in the top 10 so I brought up a couple 90+ players on your teams that are good but are not in the top 10 dont know how that makes me come across as foolish... and yes Justin Miller played good even though his overall sucks...dont know what that has to do with this
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...

Touchdown Jesus, quit making yourself seem so stupid.

Reason why Edge isn't top 10 rushing: Because...

Drumroll....


I'M A FUCKING PASSING TEAM!!!!!!!!

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure if I made my offense 80-20 run I would have him in the top 10!

No fucking way!

Unbelievable!

oh yea thats why laurence maroney is #1 in rushing right now, because hes DEFINATELY not on a passing team, yep the pats are all about the run. Good try though...
For all you know the Pats make their sliders 70-30 run... maybe their WRs and QB are so good that even though they run a LOT more than they pass they still put up good numbers...Good try though.
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No I was bringing up that Edge is a good RB regardless of what he does in the NFL hes good in madden, you said he wasnt good because hes not in the top 10 so I brought up a couple 90+ players on your teams that are good but are not in the top 10 dont know how that makes me come across as foolish... and yes Justin Miller played good even though his overall sucks...dont know what that has to do with this

but edge isnt putting up good numbers, so obviously he sucks in madden to.

because to you stats are everything (Justin Miller case). So it contradicts what you're saying about edge
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No I was bringing up that Edge is a good RB regardless of what he does in the NFL hes good in madden, you said he wasnt good because hes not in the top 10 so I brought up a couple 90+ players on your teams that are good but are not in the top 10 dont know how that makes me come across as foolish... and yes Justin Miller played good even though his overall sucks...dont know what that has to do with this

but edge isnt putting up good numbers, so obviously he sucks in madden to.

because to you stats are everything (Justin Miller case). So it contradicts what you're saying about edge
yes stats are important but your obviously illiterate, Desert Demon just said that he is a passing team AS IN he passes a lot more then he runs which is a key factor in why Edge isnt a top 10 back...
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Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
mksadng wrote:
Steve_Smith_#12 wrote:
Also, I think all you Edge debaters are missing the actual point . . . he's not good anymore.
He is in Madden...I think all the Edge haters need to realize this is Madden and how he performs in real life doesnt mean anything because in this league hes still a 90+ RB...

lol yea thats why hes top 10 in rushing... oh wait...

Touchdown Jesus, quit making yourself seem so stupid.

Reason why Edge isn't top 10 rushing: Because...

Drumroll....


I'M A FUCKING PASSING TEAM!!!!!!!!

BRILLIANT!

I'm sure if I made my offense 80-20 run I would have him in the top 10!

No fucking way!

Unbelievable!

oh yea thats why laurence maroney is #1 in rushing right now, because hes DEFINATELY not on a passing team, yep the pats are all about the run. Good try though...

How do you know that? Are you sure that the Pat's GM is not just running the ball instead of passing? Or do you have inside information?

Let's also compare the offenses

Quarterback
Tom Brady 99 4 30

Matt Leinart 83 4 24

Runningback
Laronce Maroney 87 4 22

Edge James 91 3 29

Wide Receivers
Plaxico Buress 94 4 30
Wes Welker 93 5 26
Santana Moss 88 28 4

Larry Fitzgerald 96 3 24
Bryant Johnson 82 1 26
J Urban 72 1 26

TE
Jeremy Shockey 95 5 27

Leonard Pope 76 4 23

LT
Matt Light 97 3 29

m gandy 82 3 28

LG
Hank Fraley 87 4 29

Logan Mankins/95/25/2

C
Dan Koppen 94 5 29

d lutui 79 4 24[RG ]

RG
Stephen Neal 92 3 29

Justin Blalock 80/4/23[LG ]

RT
Nick Kaczur 84 2 28

L brown 81 6 23




OMG! Look at that! The Pats have a better player at every position except RB, #1 WR, and LG!

That means the Pats offense is much better! Look who has the better offensive Line!

Obviously, a team that puts up more points faster, can simply run the clock later!

Again, who know's what the Pat's GM has his sliders at! Maybe it's 50-50 run and pass, and with that OL, LoMo is tearing it up!



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For all you know the Pats make their sliders 70-30 run... maybe their WRs and QB are so good that even though they run a LOT more than they pass they still put up good numbers...Good try though.

For all you know we're living in a world of puppy dogs and unicorns and they control madden which makes the patriots only have a maximum of 10 passing plays per game... Good try though.

good one, resorting to ridiculous hypotheticals to try and counter a point, what a stretch
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No I was bringing up that Edge is a good RB regardless of what he does in the NFL hes good in madden, you said he wasnt good because hes not in the top 10 so I brought up a couple 90+ players on your teams that are good but are not in the top 10 dont know how that makes me come across as foolish... and yes Justin Miller played good even though his overall sucks...dont know what that has to do with this

but edge isnt putting up good numbers, so obviously he sucks in madden to.

because to you stats are everything (Justin Miller case). So it contradicts what you're saying about edge

How do you know Edge sucks?

Maybe he's #11?
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LG
Hank Fraley 87 4 29

Logan Mankins/95/25/2

RG
Stephen Neal 92 3 29

Justin Blalock 80/4/23[LG ]

OMG! Look at that! The Pats have a better player at every position except RB, #1 WR, and LG!

That means the Pats offense is much better! Look who has the better offensive Line!

Obviously, a team that puts up more points faster, can simply run the clock later!

Again, who know's what the Pat's GM has his sliders at! Maybe it's 50-50 run and pass, and with that OL, LoMo is tearing it up!



Epic Fail!

lets look at the OGs, the primary blockers for the HB, hmmm seems pretty close, btw, your point just demonstrates why the pats would lean to a pass attack. Good try though, keep trying to place the blame for why edge sucks, maybe try blaming his agent? Maybe that would work

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