2008 Election thread

Talk about the 2008 election in here. Please first read this thread before you post in here:

https://madden360league.forummotion.com/politics-world-news-f16/politics-world-news-forum-rules-t1627.htm

Thanks guys

Obama FTW!

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

im just quoting this, because its my 1000 post. lol

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

im just quoting this, because its my 1000 post. lol

im just quoting this, because its my 643 post. lol.

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

im just quoting this, because its my 1000 post. lol

im just quoting this, because its my 643 post. lol.

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

im just quoting this, because its my 1000 post. lol

im just quoting this, because its my 643 post. lol.

ive never seen the cherry one before

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

SoxNats08 wrote:

Obama FTL!

^qft

^qft!!!! lol.

im just quoting this, because its my 1000 post. lol

im just quoting this, because its my 643 post. lol.

ive never seen the cherry one before

here is is

i assume you mean here "it" is..

yea

did you do that?

PackersOwnAll wrote:

yea

did you do that?

no that one was you

Obama is all bark and no bite. He is a great public speaker, I will give him that, but he is all hype. He has no substance, and it shows how gullibe todays youth is. How all of you are so mesmerized by him, when his views are on par with most democrats, yet unlike others he has no plans to enact those views in his presidency(as of yet). I hope people realize this before we make a big mistake. I support Clinton, but if she loses(which seems likely) then I will support McCain. I will die before I vote for Barack Obama(if I could vote).

Ron Paul!!!

catspajamas wrote:

Obama is all bark and no bite

Where's your proof?

catspajamas wrote:

Obama is all bark and no bite. He is a great public speaker, I will give him that, but he is all hype. He has no substance, and it shows how gullibe todays youth is. How all of you are so mesmerized by him, when his views are on par with most democrats, yet unlike others he has no plans to enact those views in his presidency(as of yet). I hope people realize this before we make a big mistake. I support Clinton, but if she loses(which seems likely) then I will support McCain. I will die before I vote for Barack Obama(if I could vote).

To EF: Read one of his speeches. He can make anything sound good.

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

I got my wording mixed up, what I was trying to say was:

- He is a great speaker, a good enough one that he can wrap people around his finger and have great influence on them
- He is that good of a speaker that he can make things seem better than they are
- When it gets to the point where he has to initiate these plans, he will have no idea what to do(speculation, but his massive inexperience mixed with his lack of depth and substance makes me and a lot of others feel the same)

catspajamas wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

I got my wording mixed up, what I was trying to say was:

- He is a great speaker, a good enough one that he can wrap people around his finger and have great influence on them
- He is that good of a speaker that he can make things seem better than they are
- When it gets to the point where he has to initiate these plans, he will have no idea what to do(speculation, but his massive inexperience mixed with his lack of depth and substance makes me and a lot of others feel the same)

Thought I'd point EF's post:

eaglesfan90 wrote:

Barack Obama
Political Experience:
Senator, United States Senate, 2005-present
Keynote Speaker, 2004 Democratic National Convention
Senator, Illinois State Senate, 1996-2004.

Hilary Clinton
Political Experience:
Senator, United States Senate, 2000-present
First Lady, President Bill Clinton, 1992-2000
First Lady, State of Arkansas, 1978-1980, 1982-1992.

Sure, Hilary has been the first lady, but get real, god damn, she was just the first lady, what political expertise/responsibility do they need?, the whole experience thing is overblown because that's part of her campaign!

catspajamas wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

I got my wording mixed up, what I was trying to say was:

- He is a great speaker, a good enough one that he can wrap people around his finger and have great influence on them
- He is that good of a speaker that he can make things seem better than they are
- When it gets to the point where he has to initiate these plans, he will have no idea what to do(speculation, but his massive inexperience mixed with his lack of depth and substance makes me and a lot of others feel the same)

Your making him sound like a demagogue-esque Hitler guy.

He uses inspirational leadership and speaking to lead the country, a tool that some of the greatest presidents used (JFK, FDR).

His policies are a bit soft/vague, I'll give you that, but they can be improved. But speaking skills and public communication, a gift that he has, cannot be simply obtained, and that gives him an edge over both Hillary and McCain.

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

I got my wording mixed up, what I was trying to say was:

- He is a great speaker, a good enough one that he can wrap people around his finger and have great influence on them
- He is that good of a speaker that he can make things seem better than they are
- When it gets to the point where he has to initiate these plans, he will have no idea what to do(speculation, but his massive inexperience mixed with his lack of depth and substance makes me and a lot of others feel the same)

Your making him sound like a demagogue-esque Hitler guy.

He uses inspirational leadership and speaking to lead the country, a tool that some of the greatest presidents used (JFK, FDR).

His policies are a bit soft/vague, I'll give you that, but they can be improved. But speaking skills and public communication, a gift that he has, cannot be simply obtained, and that gives him an edge over both Hillary and McCain.

JFK wasn't even that good of a president, his name shouldn't be mentioned with FDR. The reason he is so popular is because he had celebrity-like status, on account of his family name, good looks and that he was a great orator. JFK was tragically assassinated, and a mystery shrouds it, but he is WAY overrated as a president. He was only in office for 3 years, and his policies were very far left and many didn't pass. His biggest claim to fame is the space program, and sadly he died before he could see it. He did propse the Civil Rights act of 1964, but others did more than he did.

catspajamas wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

catspajamas wrote:

If Barack Obama said kill all of the jews, the liberal brain washed college students would listen like zombies. As SS6 said below, he can make potted meat sound like Filet Mingon, but has nothing to back up his ideas except for empty promises.

....what?

I got my wording mixed up, what I was trying to say was:

- He is a great speaker, a good enough one that he can wrap people around his finger and have great influence on them
- He is that good of a speaker that he can make things seem better than they are
- When it gets to the point where he has to initiate these plans, he will have no idea what to do(speculation, but his massive inexperience mixed with his lack of depth and substance makes me and a lot of others feel the same)

Your making him sound like a demagogue-esque Hitler guy.

He uses inspirational leadership and speaking to lead the country, a tool that some of the greatest presidents used (JFK, FDR).

His policies are a bit soft/vague, I'll give you that, but they can be improved. But speaking skills and public communication, a gift that he has, cannot be simply obtained, and that gives him an edge over both Hillary and McCain.

JFK wasn't even that good of a president, his name shouldn't be mentioned with FDR. The reason he is so popular is because he had celebrity-like status, on account of his family name, good looks and that he was a great orator. JFK was tragically assassinated, and a mystery shrouds it, but he is WAY overrated as a president. He was only in office for 3 years, and his policies were very far left and many didn't pass. His biggest claim to fame is the space program, and sadly he died before he could see it. He did propse the Civil Rights act of 1964, but others did more than he did.

booo!, FDR was a dictator! lol, but seriously though, he was a close as it has ever come to tyranny in the US government since its founding