2008 Presidential Candidate

I like Obama the most.

GO OBAMA!!!!

I liked Ron Paul...

McCain

Everyone knows it will be Obama

PackersOwnAll wrote:

Everyone knows it will be Obama

neverevereverevereverevereverever

McC!!!!! Will probably win it.

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

Haahaha

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

Haahaha

you know its true

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

Haahaha

you know its true

yes, i could see that happining, so who ever becomes his vp, is basicly the one running haha

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

Haahaha

you know its true

yes, i could see that happining, so who ever becomes his vp, is basicly the one running haha

watch it be clinton or something

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

NorCal-TitanFan wrote:

McC!!!!! Will probably die before the election

yep. lol

No he will be elected and then croak at the after party..

Haahaha

you know its true

yes, i could see that happining, so who ever becomes his vp, is basicly the one running haha

watch it be clinton or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AScoMhVZQnw

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

yayanjl wrote:

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

how can u want a republican to win, george bush has already fucked up america enough

yayanjl wrote:

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

Why would you want a republican?

PatsDynasty wrote:

yayanjl wrote:

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

how can u want a republican to win, george bush has already fucked up america enough

One of the more ignorant statements I've read.

This supports my view that some people honestly should not be allowed to vote, due to incompetence.

Since when was George W. Bush "the" Republican party? Sure, he's a representative of it as President, but he isn't the epitamy of it.

Politicians join political parties that most resemble what they believe in, so they can advance further; without the political party, unless they have billions of dollars and influence, they won't be elected.

That is why you have politicians who believe in the same things in general in a party, but may have radically differing opinions on specific topics.

In addition, keep in mind that Congress is majority Democrats right now, and Bush is a Republican. In history, with very few exceptions, when one party has presidency and the other has congress, very little gets done. The President stops Congress with vetoes, and Congress doesn't allow the President to get his bills approved.

Desert Demon wrote:

PatsDynasty wrote:

yayanjl wrote:

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

how can u want a republican to win, george bush has already fucked up america enough

One of the more ignorant statements I've read.

This supports my view that some people honestly should not be allowed to vote, due to incompetence.

Since when was George W. Bush "the" Republican party? Sure, he's a representative of it as President, but he isn't the epitamy of it.

Politicians join political parties that most resemble what they believe in, so they can advance further; without the political party, unless they have billions of dollars and influence, they won't be elected.

That is why you have politicians who believe in the same things in general in a party, but may have radically differing opinions on specific topics.

In addition, keep in mind that Congress is majority Democrats right now, and Bush is a Republican. In history, with very few exceptions, when one party has presidency and the other has congress, very little gets done. The President stops Congress with vetoes, and Congress doesn't allow the President to get his bills approved.

Ugh shut up PD, Ruskie is right, you just made yourself look like a retard.

In terms of political decisions, I don't think McCain would be a bad president by far, but I simply don't side with conservative views which is why I would vote for Obama (or Clinton if she was the nominee). Clinton has good policies, and I think she would be pretty successful. As for Obama, I have a feeling that he will lead this country really well. He has good ideas, the only thing I don't like of his is that he wants to pull out all our troops out of Iraq in the next year (don't have a source on that, I just remember hearing that). We definitely shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place, but now that the damage has been done, if we back out of Iraq, the Middle East will crumble. It has to be a gradual effort over about 3 more years, and we need to make sure the Iraq government is completely stable before we leave. A good comparison is that we went somewhere, made a complete mess, and then leave someone else to clean up after us. The mess should have never been made in the first place, but since we made the mess, we have to clean it up. But at the same time, we have to leave Iraq before 2015, American lives are at stake.

SoxNats08 wrote:

Desert Demon wrote:

PatsDynasty wrote:

yayanjl wrote:

I want a republican to win... so GO MCCAIN!!!

and BTW, Ron Paul is gay.

how can u want a republican to win, george bush has already fucked up america enough

One of the more ignorant statements I've read.

This supports my view that some people honestly should not be allowed to vote, due to incompetence.

Since when was George W. Bush "the" Republican party? Sure, he's a representative of it as President, but he isn't the epitamy of it.

Politicians join political parties that most resemble what they believe in, so they can advance further; without the political party, unless they have billions of dollars and influence, they won't be elected.

That is why you have politicians who believe in the same things in general in a party, but may have radically differing opinions on specific topics.

In addition, keep in mind that Congress is majority Democrats right now, and Bush is a Republican. In history, with very few exceptions, when one party has presidency and the other has congress, very little gets done. The President stops Congress with vetoes, and Congress doesn't allow the President to get his bills approved.

Ugh shut up PD, Ruskie is right, you just made yourself look like a retard.

In terms of political decisions, I don't think McCain would be a bad president by far, but I simply don't side with conservative views which is why I would vote for Obama (or Clinton if she was the nominee). Clinton has good policies, and I think she would be pretty successful. As for Obama, I have a feeling that he will lead this country really well. He has good ideas, the only thing I don't like of his is that he wants to pull out all our troops out of Iraq in the next year (don't have a source on that, I just remember hearing that). We definitely shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place, but now that the damage has been done, if we back out of Iraq, the Middle East will crumble. It has to be a gradual effort over about 3 more years, and we need to make sure the Iraq government is completely stable before we leave. A good comparison is that we went somewhere, made a complete mess, and then leave someone else to clean up after us. The mess should have never been made in the first place, but since we made the mess, we have to clean it up. But at the same time, we have to leave Iraq before 2015, American lives are at stake.

McCain wouldnt be a good president, he wants to stay in iraq until we win, and thats probably a war we r not going to win. Also with all the money we are spending on this war we could have done some many other things that would have been more helpful. if we stay in iraq until we win then our 9 billion dollar deficit is going to continue to grow and the dollar will get weaker and weaker. As for Bush, we shouldnt have even gone into iraq after we killed saddam hussein in afghanistan, the reason he went in their was for oil. and soxs u have to realize people in iraq dont want our help and thats why we are not going to win the war, it be much better if we got out of their as soon as possible and started using our money more wisely.

PatsDynasty wrote:

Also with all the money we are spending on this war we could have done some many other things that would have been more helpful. if we stay in iraq until we win then our 9 billion dollar deficit is going to continue to grow and the dollar will get weaker and weaker.

Once again, like I said we never should have gone in, but we either have to go all out on this or we shouldn't have done it at all. This doesn't have to primarily relate to money now, it also has to do with world relations. If we pull out of Iraq now, and then the Middle East collapses as it surely will (I know that that seems a bit dramatic, but I'll give you an idea of what will happen: anarchy, riots, people attacking oil plants which would increase gas prices even more, Iran invading Iraq, you get the idea), not only will gas prices increase, the United States will be hated and loathed for destroying lives. As difficult as it is to say, if we did leave Iraq it would not be hard to look back and say that the region was more successful under Saddam Hussein.

PatsDynasty wrote:

As for Bush, we shouldnt have even gone into iraq after we killed saddam hussein in afghanistan, the reason he went in their was for oil.

I never said that we shouldnt have gone into Iraq, I completely agree with you there. And we didn't kill Saddam Hussein in Afghanistan, don't know where you got that from.

PatsDynasty wrote:

and soxs u have to realize people in iraq dont want our help and thats why we are not going to win the war, it be much better if we got out of their as soon as possible and started using our money more wisely.

First off, it cannot be really classified as a war anymore. Who are the two sides in the war? You can say its the terrorists vs. the US, but they are basically in hiding and occasionally bomb places and use guerilla warfare. Even if they don't want our help, I am sure that they would rather have the current situation then anarchy.

You may think that I am being dramatic, but I can almost guarantee you that to some extent, the aforemented situation would occur if we were to leave Iraq.

I by no means support the situation in Iraq, but you are taking a very radical position, and to leave Iraq within the next year would be outright stupid.

Yayanjl care to explain why Ron Paul is gay?

mksadng wrote:

Yayanjl care to explain why Ron Paul is gay?

He wanted to get rid of congress

Nerd85 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Yayanjl care to explain why Ron Paul is gay?

He wanted to get rid of congress

And legalize Marijuana which would bring in TONS of money...