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Harper41
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 12:52 am

and Kellen Winslow is a rare breed of TE, hes fast got good hands and hes a great all around receiving threat, even if hes not reeling in 100 yards a game, hes a great decoy when teams game plan against you.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:01 am

Harper41 wrote:
and Kellen Winslow is a rare breed of TE, hes fast got good hands and hes a great all around receiving threat, even if hes not reeling in 100 yards a game, hes a great decoy when teams game plan against you.

Didn't the leading TE have something like only 800 yards receiving? That's roughly 50 per game.

And Madden doesn't 'game plan' against one singular player in a simulation, you can focus on pass or run, and how aggressive, but not much more.

Harper, you are smarter than this Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:01 am

Desert Demon wrote:
Who's on the TC btw?
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:06 am

Desert Demon wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Who's on the TC btw?

idiots, but theyre not the reason why your trade got denied
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:10 am

Desert Demon wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
and Kellen Winslow is a rare breed of TE, hes fast got good hands and hes a great all around receiving threat, even if hes not reeling in 100 yards a game, hes a great decoy when teams game plan against you.

Didn't the leading TE have something like only 800 yards receiving? That's roughly 50 per game.

And Madden doesn't 'game plan' against one singular player in a simulation, you can focus on pass or run, and how aggressive, but not much more.

Harper, you are smarter than this Wink
I was actually referring to GMs looking at your depth chart and sending in sliders. A smart GM will defend the pass more if you have a 95 TE rather than a 79.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:11 am

TC-
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:11 am

Harper41 wrote:
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Might I inquire about his vote?
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Desert Demon
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:14 am

Harper41 wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
and Kellen Winslow is a rare breed of TE, hes fast got good hands and hes a great all around receiving threat, even if hes not reeling in 100 yards a game, hes a great decoy when teams game plan against you.

Didn't the leading TE have something like only 800 yards receiving? That's roughly 50 per game.

And Madden doesn't 'game plan' against one singular player in a simulation, you can focus on pass or run, and how aggressive, but not much more.

Harper, you are smarter than this Wink
I was actually referring to GMs looking at your depth chart and sending in sliders. A smart GM will defend the pass more if you have a 95 TE rather than a 79.

A smart GM already knows all I do is pass - How do you think Fitz was a top 3 WR? or how Leinart threw over 4,700 yards last season, along with Edge doing jack on my offense?
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:17 am

I see it like this:

Wislow,4th,5th=Pope,2,34

Odom, 49, CP = Tuck

Dansby = Ohare

lutiu,>>>hughes,johnson

I vote no, the giants need a bit more IMHO
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:21 am

Harper41 wrote:
I see it like this:

Wislow,4th,5th=Pope,2,34

Odom, 49, CP = Tuck

Dansby = Ohare

lutiu,>>>hughes,johnson

I vote no, the giants need a bit more IMHO

Fair enough.

I saw it as:

Lutui = Johnson
Odom + 34 + CP = Ohara
Dansby = Tuck
Winslow = Pope, #2, #49

Hughes I wanted just because Very Happy

But oh well, that's over and done with, I've upgraded my secondary this draft so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:12 am

Desert Demon wrote:
Quote :
Cardinals get:

LE j. tuck 90/6/25
s. o'hara 90/4/31
CB d. hughes 76/3/23
ROLB l.johnson 83/27/6
TE k. winslow 95/2/25
5th round pick
4th round pick

Giants get:

LE Antwan Odom 84 1 26
RG D Lutui 83 3 25
ROLB Karlos Dansby 89 4 26
TE Leonard Pope 79 3 24
#2
#34
#49
2 contract points

DENIED 1-3 Giants not getting enough

It's awesome when two GMs work hard to reach an agreement on a trade so one of them can draft a player they want, then the TC decides to say "Hey, those two GMs worked and AGREED to this trade, but I (Keyword: I) don't want to pass it", and fuck both over.

Awesome.

same thing happened to me, I ad the #1 pick and it was in a pending deal then I logged on to see it got denied and I was skipped in the draft, that screwed me over big time
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Desert Demon
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 10:11 am

daking5 wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Quote :
Cardinals get:

LE j. tuck 90/6/25
s. o'hara 90/4/31
CB d. hughes 76/3/23
ROLB l.johnson 83/27/6
TE k. winslow 95/2/25
5th round pick
4th round pick

Giants get:

LE Antwan Odom 84 1 26
RG D Lutui 83 3 25
ROLB Karlos Dansby 89 4 26
TE Leonard Pope 79 3 24
#2
#34
#49
2 contract points

DENIED 1-3 Giants not getting enough

It's awesome when two GMs work hard to reach an agreement on a trade so one of them can draft a player they want, then the TC decides to say "Hey, those two GMs worked and AGREED to this trade, but I (Keyword: I) don't want to pass it", and fuck both over.

Awesome.

same thing happened to me, I ad the #1 pick and it was in a pending deal then I logged on to see it got denied and I was skipped in the draft, that screwed me over big time

Yeah, you had a #1 pick and didn't even get a top 10 talent....

I was being on the safe side - I sent in a BB if the trade passed, and another BB if it didn't.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 10:45 am

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Who's on the TC btw?

idiots, but theyre not the reason why your trade got denied

Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 10:47 am

I am. that trade had 3 90's going to another team. I'll admit that some of our members are too harsh, but usually its ok.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 10:58 am

superskin6 wrote:
I am. that trade had 3 90's going to another team. I'll admit that some of our members are too harsh, but usually its ok.

Yeah, my apologies, as I was working I thought more and more that it wouldn't pass (BTW Dansby is a mere one point from 90 Wink)

I just know that there's a certain someone or two who only care about OVR, Ages, and whether they would do the deal or not, and don't care about the 'surrounding' circumstances pertaining to the trade.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 11:06 am

Desert Demon wrote:

I just know that there's a certain someone or two who only care about OVR, Ages, and whether they would do the deal or not, and don't care about the 'surrounding' circumstances pertaining to the trade.


I don't care about any of that stuff. I am just out to get ya. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:55 pm

daking5 wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Quote :
Cardinals get:

LE j. tuck 90/6/25
s. o'hara 90/4/31
CB d. hughes 76/3/23
ROLB l.johnson 83/27/6
TE k. winslow 95/2/25
5th round pick
4th round pick

Giants get:

LE Antwan Odom 84 1 26
RG D Lutui 83 3 25
ROLB Karlos Dansby 89 4 26
TE Leonard Pope 79 3 24
#2
#34
#49
2 contract points

DENIED 1-3 Giants not getting enough

It's awesome when two GMs work hard to reach an agreement on a trade so one of them can draft a player they want, then the TC decides to say "Hey, those two GMs worked and AGREED to this trade, but I (Keyword: I) don't want to pass it", and fuck both over.

Awesome.

same thing happened to me, I ad the #1 pick and it was in a pending deal then I logged on to see it got denied and I was skipped in the draft, that screwed me over big time
No, you logged on numerous times during the draft AND the admins reminded everyone over and over to send in big boards, you failed to do so, if you had you wouldve gotten a top 5 talent.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 1:57 pm

Harper41 wrote:
daking5 wrote:
Desert Demon wrote:
Quote :
Cardinals get:

LE j. tuck 90/6/25
s. o'hara 90/4/31
CB d. hughes 76/3/23
ROLB l.johnson 83/27/6
TE k. winslow 95/2/25
5th round pick
4th round pick

Giants get:

LE Antwan Odom 84 1 26
RG D Lutui 83 3 25
ROLB Karlos Dansby 89 4 26
TE Leonard Pope 79 3 24
#2
#34
#49
2 contract points

DENIED 1-3 Giants not getting enough

It's awesome when two GMs work hard to reach an agreement on a trade so one of them can draft a player they want, then the TC decides to say "Hey, those two GMs worked and AGREED to this trade, but I (Keyword: I) don't want to pass it", and fuck both over.

Awesome.

same thing happened to me, I ad the #1 pick and it was in a pending deal then I logged on to see it got denied and I was skipped in the draft, that screwed me over big time
No, you logged on numerous times during the draft AND the admins reminded everyone over and over to send in big boards, you failed to do so, if you had you wouldve gotten a top 5 talent.

lol, I logged on after my pick was already skipped
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 2:03 pm

so, u can still pick
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:08 pm

Joke

Jets get
HB Frank Gore 93 24 5

49ers get
HB Thomas Jones 88 30 4
4th round pick #128
WR Brad Smith 78 24 1

I agree


Frank is worth more then those crummy players.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:12 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
Joke

Jets get
HB Frank Gore 93 24 5

49ers get
HB Thomas Jones 88 30 4
4th round pick #128
WR Brad Smith 78 24 1

I agree


Frank is worth more then those crummy players.
Smith progressed 2 points last season, is a WR and is only 24 years old. He needs a WR pretty bad, especially one with potential.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:19 pm

potential dont matter as it stands, gore is better then Jones and Smith isnt worth much more then a 3rd.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:20 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
potential dont matter as it stands, gore is better then Jones and Smith isnt worth much more then a 3rd.
Hes worth atleast a 2nd. You wont find a 78 in the 2nd round, the only reason hes not worth a first is because they progress so fast. Hes rated higher than most people at the end of the first round.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:24 pm

Harper41 wrote:
SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
potential dont matter as it stands, gore is better then Jones and Smith isnt worth much more then a 3rd.
Hes worth atleast a 2nd. You wont find a 78 in the 2nd round, the only reason hes not worth a first is because they progress so fast. Hes rated higher than most people at the end of the first round.

Stop Bull shitting that other GM. The 49ers are bad as is no need to make them worse.
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PostSubject: Re: Trade Discussion   Trade Discussion - Page 6 Icon_minitimeSat Aug 02, 2008 6:28 pm

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
Harper41 wrote:
SilverNBlackAttack wrote:
potential dont matter as it stands, gore is better then Jones and Smith isnt worth much more then a 3rd.
Hes worth atleast a 2nd. You wont find a 78 in the 2nd round, the only reason hes not worth a first is because they progress so fast. Hes rated higher than most people at the end of the first round.

Stop Bull shitting that other GM. The 49ers are bad as is no need to make them worse.
Bullshitting? Smith is rated higher than anyone in the 2nd round, im almost 99% sure of that.
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