Best DL in the NFl

jared allen should change his number to 92

I dont know if there the best D-line though. I mean The Eagels and the Gaints have top D-lines

Im still thinking Gaints D-line>>>> Vikings D-line

Since New york has been a QB eating son of a beast.

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

jared allen should change his number to 92

nah, im likin that 69

SoxNats08 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

jared allen should change his number to 92

nah, im likin that 69

it sticks out like a sore thumb, 91 - 69 - 93- 94?

not to mention hes 26 and plays in the nfl, not 12 and playing football in his backyard.

mksadng wrote:

Saints could have a top DL if Sedrick Ellis works out, DEs played bad last year because our DTs were HORRIBLE and our best DT Bryan Young was injured, Young and Ellis is going to make a MEAN DT tandem and Charles Grant and Will Smith are one of the best DE combos in the league.

you're a fucking saints fan? What happened to the Pats?

Nerd85 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Saints could have a top DL if Sedrick Ellis works out, DEs played bad last year because our DTs were HORRIBLE and our best DT Bryan Young was injured, Young and Ellis is going to make a MEAN DT tandem and Charles Grant and Will Smith are one of the best DE combos in the league.

you're a fucking saints fan? What happened to the Pats?

Example of a
Band Wagon fan

Nerd85 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Saints could have a top DL if Sedrick Ellis works out, DEs played bad last year because our DTs were HORRIBLE and our best DT Bryan Young was injured, Young and Ellis is going to make a MEAN DT tandem and Charles Grant and Will Smith are one of the best DE combos in the league.

you're a fucking saints fan? What happened to the Pats?

Always been a Saints fan...live in New Hampshire so I support the Patriots sorta but ive always been a Saints fan. Love the Saints but i support the Patriots since well I watch all their games, everyone I know is a Pats fan but my support of the Patriots has started to dwindle since spy gate and their alleged cheating in the super bowl

and yes Silver I bandwagoned onto the 7-9 Saints

mksadng wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Saints could have a top DL if Sedrick Ellis works out, DEs played bad last year because our DTs were HORRIBLE and our best DT Bryan Young was injured, Young and Ellis is going to make a MEAN DT tandem and Charles Grant and Will Smith are one of the best DE combos in the league.

you're a fucking saints fan? What happened to the Pats?

Always been a Saints fan...live in New Hampshire so I support the Patriots sorta but ive always been a Saints fan. Love the Saints but i support the Patriots since well I watch all their games, everyone I know is a Pats fan but my support of the Patriots has started to dwindle since spy gate and their alleged cheating in the super bowl

and yes Silver I bandwagoned onto the 7-9 Saints

No I meant you band wagoned the Pats

SilverNBlackAttack wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Saints could have a top DL if Sedrick Ellis works out, DEs played bad last year because our DTs were HORRIBLE and our best DT Bryan Young was injured, Young and Ellis is going to make a MEAN DT tandem and Charles Grant and Will Smith are one of the best DE combos in the league.

you're a fucking saints fan? What happened to the Pats?

Always been a Saints fan...live in New Hampshire so I support the Patriots sorta but ive always been a Saints fan. Love the Saints but i support the Patriots since well I watch all their games, everyone I know is a Pats fan but my support of the Patriots has started to dwindle since spy gate and their alleged cheating in the super bowl

and yes Silver I bandwagoned onto the 7-9 Saints

No I meant you band wagoned the Pats

Oh haha no favorite team is by far the Saints I just follow the Pats

Vhawk413 wrote:

he broke S's ankles

A lot of RBs can do that, if AD was running behind, like ATL's line, he wouldn't have had such a good year, that OL mauled opposing teams, and if AD is getting to the 2nd and 3rd level, that means the OL is doing their job well, I'm not taking anything away from AD, I just think you are undercutting the OL

Packers

Kampman baby

PackersOwnAll wrote:

Packers

Kampman baby

too bad everyone else sucks

thats like me saying

Raiders

Burgess baby

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

Packers

Kampman baby

too bad everyone else sucks

thats like me saying

Raiders

Burgess baby

Thats just stupid to say

Nerd85 wrote:

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

No way. We have the best run stuffing DT's in the league. And the best pass rushing DE in the league, according to last year, who is also good at stopping the run and deflecting balls at the line. Then Ray Edwards who will have 8+ sacks this year on that line

Pats are good, but no 3-4 DL is the best in the NFL. Can't compare 3-4 to 4-3. The lines are meant for different reasons. Different gap assignments, different priorities. In 3-4 OLB's get a lot of sacks, and lineman meant to take up the blocks so LB's can roam free. In 4-3 DE's get the sacks.

Nerd85 wrote:

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

Wilfork is an amazing 3-4 DT
Warren is an immensly underrated DE

but seymour is the most overrated player on the pats and probably the most overrated in the nfl.

Pack4 wrote:

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

Packers

Kampman baby

too bad everyone else sucks

thats like me saying

Raiders

Burgess baby

Thats just stupid to say

cullen jenkins isnt that great, KGB is only a decent pass-rusher whos ridiculously overpaid, pickett sucks, harrell isnt proven and you guys lost corey williams,

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

Wilfork is an amazing 3-4 DT
Warren is an immensly underrated DE

but seymour is the most overrated player on the pats and probably the most overrated in the nfl.

Uhhhh what? Nobody thinks Seymour is good anymore...He has 2 years where he doesnt get sacks and all of a sudden he sucks, hes so hated he HAS to be underrated now.

Charles Grant-Brian Young-Sedrick Ellis-Will Smith could be a top DL in the league, Jared Allen had a great year no doubt but look at the past 4-5 years theirs always a DE who puts up HUGE sack numbers and most of them dont repeat their numbers next year...Jared Allen will get like 8-10 sacks next season

mksadng wrote:

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

Wilfork is an amazing 3-4 DT
Warren is an immensly underrated DE

but seymour is the most overrated player on the pats and probably the most overrated in the nfl.

Uhhhh what? Nobody thinks Seymour is good anymore...He has 2 years where he doesnt get sacks and all of a sudden he sucks, hes so hated he HAS to be underrated now.

I would not say underrated, I would say finally rated right. He is a product of the system, just like Asante Samuel. Samuel is good, but he will not be as good in a different system. Like Jason David, I know that is not the greatest comparison, but still relevant, in Ind's system he was good, in NO's he is HORRIBLE

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

PackersOwnAll wrote:

Packers

Kampman baby

too bad everyone else sucks

thats like me saying

Raiders

Burgess baby

KGB is a good 3rd down guy who gets his sacks cuz ppl double on Kampman, Ryan Pickett is a monster run stuffer, sorta like Gilbert Brown was.. so dont say he sucks you silly canadian.

Corey Williams was a good pass and run guy before Thompson was homosexual and traded him cuz hes in love with the faggot named Justin Harrel...

Don't forget Cullen Jenkins Career high 44 tackles last year


And Sean, You know things are bad when ESPN classifys the Raiders losing Warren Sapp as a key loss..

You cant say our D line is bad when we had held AP to under 100 yards and had top 15 in the league in sacks and held all the other rbs under 80 yards a game all year

Vhawk413 wrote:

mksadng wrote:

Touchdown Jesus! wrote:

Nerd85 wrote:

Seymour--Underrated (no matter what Sox will tell ya)
Wilfork-- Best 3-4 DT in the NFL
Warren-- IMMENSLEY underrated

The Pats are the best because of their supieriority in the trenches.

Wilfork is an amazing 3-4 DT
Warren is an immensly underrated DE

but seymour is the most overrated player on the pats and probably the most overrated in the nfl.

Uhhhh what? Nobody thinks Seymour is good anymore...He has 2 years where he doesnt get sacks and all of a sudden he sucks, hes so hated he HAS to be underrated now.

I would not say underrated, I would say finally rated right. He is a product of the system, just like Asante Samuel. Samuel is good, but he will not be as good in a different system. Like Jason David, I know that is not the greatest comparison, but still relevant, in Ind's system he was good, in NO's he is HORRIBLE

No Seymour is not a product of the system...being a 3-4 DL is one of the toughest jobs in the league you cant be a product of a 3-4 DL, now if you said Mike Vrabel is a product of our system id agree because well he is, now that doesnt make him a bad player but he kicks ass in a 3-4 but in a 4-3 he wouldnt be close to the same player, now in comparison Richard Seymour would be a VERY good 4-3 DT as well as a good 3-4 DE. Our CBs are a product of our system because their allowed to jump routes with almost no consuquences...

Vhawk413 wrote:

I would not say underrated, I would say finally rated right. He is a product of the system, just like Asante Samuel. Samuel is good, but he will not be as good in a different system. Like Jason David, I know that is not the greatest comparison, but still relevant, in Ind's system he was good, in NO's he is HORRIBLE

So what if he is a product of the system?, most players are products of the system they play in, that's why teams draft and sign players that fit their system.

Fact is, Richard Seymour is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the league, so what if he isn't getting sacks?, he isn't really meant to get sacks, that's not his job, if you are going to judge a 3-4 DE on the amount of sacks they get, you are not a knowledgeable football fan

The Patriots have one of the best DLs in the league, 3-4, 4-3, 46, Cover 2, and so on and so fourth, they have one of the top DLs

In my opinion, in no real order, the top DLs in the league are

Minnesota (If Ray Edwards can produce, I mean, you shouldn't have to have 3 Pro Bowlers on your line until you start producing)

New Orleans (If Sedrick Ellis plays like he did in the Senior Bowl, last year was a terrible year for them, but they should rebound this year)

New York Giants (Their versitility and speed along the DL is amazing, they are the reason the Giants won the super bowl with the average and oft injured secondary)

Baltimore (So underrated, they are the most effective run stopping DL in the league)

Tenneessee (If Albert Haynesworth continues to be an absolute force on that line, they are guaranteed a top DL in the league, people will say "but Antwan Odom left in FA....", Odom is inconsequential and only had success because of Haynesworth and KVB, proved by the numbers and the footage, also, to add another point in there, in the three contests Albert Haynesworth missed, Tennessee surrendered 31.7 points per game. Their season average was 18.6. Haynesworth was incredibly dominant, almost single-handedly carrying the Titans into the playoffs.)

Jacksonville (Can be up there, Marcus Stroud was a loss, but Rob Meier and Derek Landri stepped in for injuries at DT last year and the line was still dominant, there is also a chance Paul Spicer *300+ pound DE* could move to the inside, it also doesn't hurt to add two DEs with first round grades to the DL {Groves only fell because of injuries - heart surgery})

Patriots (All Pros at both DE spots and at NT, Jarvis Green coming off the bench doesn't hurt either)